Iradicating Planaria continued

Yesterday I treated a 20gal tank with Wild Type Neocaridina Shrimp with 2 mL’s of Panacur.  Now, about 24hrs later, al the shrimp are live and well.  The Panacur also had no apparent effect on my pond snails, ramhorn snails, Sulawesi snails.  Interestingly, at least to me, the Panacur had no apparent effect on the other tiny organisms that are commonly found in a shrimp tank as I still see tiny white dots moving around on the glass.  I will next try treating a tiger shrimp tank to see how more sensitive species deal with the treatment but I am confident they will be fine.

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Recent Website Updates

So recently I updated the website and added a really cool flash dropdown menu.  What do you guys think?  Any other suggestions?

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Comments….

This being my first blog I did not realize I had to approve all my comments before they were posted…just figured it out.  Guess I am glad I had it set that way since I got about 7 comments for an ED medication that needed deleting (sorry if anyone wanted to read them :) )

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Iradicating Planaria continued

Sorry for the delayed update, life and such.  After 24hrs I didn’t see a single planaria in the tank.  I even tried baiting them with food and not a single one so it looks like it worked.  How I just need to find a good test tank with shrimp to try (shrimp that I could afford to lose if the worst happened).

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Iradicating Planaria

So I decided to try some to kill the hydra and planaria in my shrimp tanks.  I still am not convinced one way or another that they do harm to shrimp, but better safe then sorry I guess.  Once you have planaria I have found them very hard to rid yourself of them.  I have tried not feeding the shrimp, but it did not seem to have any affect after a month.  Finally, I removed all the shrimp from the tank, but after another month with no shrimp and no food there were still planaria all over the place.  More drastic measures were clearly needed

After doing some reading online I have decided to use fenbendazole.  All reports I have read said it is safe for shrimp but deadly to planaria and hydra.  I plan to use .1g of fenbendazole per 10 gallons of water. Because fenbendazole is not easily disolved in water I got a liquid form.  The brand name was Panacur 100.  Panacur 100 is used on cattle, other forms of fenbendazole are used on dogs and other animals to kill various kinds of intestinal worms.  The Panacur 100 came in a 1L bottle and contains 100g of fenbendazole, and therefore I will dose 1ml per 10 gallons of water to reach .1g of fenbendazole per 10 gallons.

The Panacur 100 was purchased from http://equine-mega-store.com/default.ehtml

I will update with my findings.  I will first try it on a tank without shrimp and then will try it in a tank with shrimp.

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Shrimp Room Update 9/20/08

So Thursday night (at midnight no less) I noticed a young tiger shrimp in with my green shrimp.  Tiger shrimp often don’t let go when you pull plants out of the water.  I caught the tiger shrimp but when I got the net out of the tank the tiger shrimp flipped itself out and onto the floor.  The shrimp survived the fall to the floor and had started trying to crawl across the ground.

When I bent down to pick up the shrimp I accidentally sat on the PVC pipe for the drain system on the tank below.  I heard a loud crack, turned around and saw the a big crack in the tank with the water pouring out.

Broken tank

Broken tank

In a panic I reached over to the crack to see how stable the bulkhead was and a got stabbed by a piece of glass.  With my finger bleeding all over the place I scrambled to get my powerhead and 3/4″ clear tubing to pump the water out of the tank before it spilled all over my floor.  I drained all but 3 inches of the water.  I pulled the pellia and other plants out along with the red claw macro shrimp and all their babies and moved them into another tank.  I was able to get them all transfered over safely and as far as I know did not loss any of them.  I never was able to find the little tiger shrimp though, I think he got washed away in the water that poured out of the tank.  I am just glad it was in my garage so the water didn’t end up doing any damage.

lovely bloody finger

lovely bloody finger

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Updated Shrimp Room 9/13/08

I figured I would add a few more pictures of my shrimp room as a lot has changed since the first posted pictures.  All 10 tubs are currently filled and 6 have shrimp in them.  I have finally removed all my tanks from my upstairs bedrooms and moved them into the shrimp room.  All the 20gals will eventually be either on a top shelve or moved to another part of the shrimp room.  They will also eventually be drilled but I wanted them out of my upstairs ASAP.

Someone here in AZ was kind enough to give me 6 tanks that are roughly 60 gallons each.  They were from an old Petco.  They were dirty and old but the price was right. Here is an example of what the tanks looked like when I got them.  I removed the dividers by cutting the silicon and pulled out the overflow boxes.  I also had to plug the one hole that was drilled at the top for the overflow and drill another one about half way down to attach a ball valve to so I can quickly drain the tank and do my water changes.   These pictures are in my back yard before I started cleaning them up.

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The start of the my shrimp room

So after moving from an apartment to my first house in July of 2007 I immediately started setting up a shrimp room in one of my extra upstairs bedrooms (completely normal right?).  I had 7 20gal tanks, 1 29gal, and 1 10gal tank in that room at one point.In January of 2008 my roommate moved out and so the logical thing to do was turn that room into a shrimp room also.  I had 8 more 20gal longs in that room at its peak.

While setting up the 2nd shrimp room (no pictures) I flooded my upstairs.  I was filling a drilled 20 long and forgot to cap the bulkhead.  To make things worse I was listening to my MP3 player at the time so couldn’t hear the water pouring out of the back.  I dont’ know how much water was dumped before I noticed but I had over a gallon of water that dripped through the ceiling on my first floor.

A week or two after the first flood I was drip acclimating some blue tigers and forgot about them.  The bucket filled up and once again started emptying on the floor.  Probably had about 3 gallons or so out on the floor again.  While it didn’t pour through the 1st floor ceiling like the the first flood it did discolor the ceiling.

I had been thinking about moving everything out into the garage because all that water (and weight) on the 2nd floor always worried me.  How stupid would I feel if they broke through the floor.  Water changes were also a royal pain because I had to bucket RO water upstairs.  After the two leaks I knew I had to speed the move up.  Below are outlines of the setup.

Setup Catagories- Completed between March and April of 2008

Floor - The first thing I did in the garage was get an epoxy coating on the floor.  I wanted something I could keep clean so I could go in there with bare feet and not track all the dirt into the house.

Access - I had a garage service door cut into the wall so I could go directly from my garage to my back yard without having to go through the house.

Temperature control - I had another hole cut in the wall for a window airconditioner.  With summer tempetures getting over 110F I knew I needed some serious cooling to keep the temp under control.  The ceiling and back wall were already insulated when I bought the house.  I used some Styrofoam garage insulation kits I bought at Home Depot to insulate the garage door.  In July I decided to get insulation blown into the side walls to cut the electric bill and help keep it cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter.

Electrical - To power the air conditioner, lights, airpump, and anything else I needed out in the garage I added 2 20amp curcuits with the help of Bill Southern.  He helped me figure out what I need and wired it up out at the box.  He showed me how to wire up each outlet and then let me use his tools.  With his instruction I was able to complete the rest of the electrical wiring myself.

Water - Again with the help of Bill I got a hose bib installed in the garage.  Luckily there was one already outside so we just had to tee it off and have another one in the garage.  I also drilled a hole through the wall and put a drain so I could drain all the water from water changes outside into the back yard and use it to water my yard (and eventually to fill a pond ;))

Tanks - In an effort to get a large amount of water for a cheaper price I purchased 10 155gal stock tubs.  These tubs were  about $1/gal and are normally used for watering livestock.  The huge water volume should allow for massive shrimp populations and much steadier water conditions then you could get in a smaller tank.  I am also using glass tanks though nothing near the size of the tubs.

Racks - Originally I planned to build racks out of wood that would go above each tub and hold 6 40gal tanks.  After a few weeks of trying to build a rack to hold some 20gal tanks I realized carpentry wasn’t my strong suit.  I had looked into various types of shelving but I couldn’t find anything that would support the kind of weight I was looking for.  My dad suggested pallet racks.  I was able to find a place in Phoenix that sold used pallet racks.  I purchased 4 10ft pallet racks.  I would have a total of 8 shelves to use for the 4 racks.  Each shelve would support 4000lbs!!  This also allowed me to stack my tubs which saved me a TON of room.

And now some pictures :)

Pallet racks before assembly

Pallet racks before assembly

One of the racks assembled

One of the racks assembled. You can also see the electrical work at the bottom of the wall.

Pallet Rack with tubs on it

Pallet Rack with tubs on it. Also note the generator on the floor in case the power goes out. The white pipe on the top is part of the air system.

Layout of Pallet Racks

Layout of Pallet Racks. You can see the 2x4's that go across the beams. On the right you can see the 3/4" particle board that was placed over the shelf. You can also see the garage service door that was installed and the insulated garage door. You can see more of the air system in this picture as well (white pipe)The white pipes are part of the air system. The shelf on the top right is where the air pump will sit. Before I had the pallet racks I was trying to figure out how to space all these tubs. You can make out the epoxy flooring, insulated garage door, the air conditioner, and the garage service door in this picture.

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Welcome to my new blog

So here is the start of my blog.  Stay tuned for more posts :)

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